99.99%. If you consider the rate of "growth" amongst the dubs you can see the rejection rate is off the chart.
"Theres only so much of that a person can take isn't there?"
Obviously not for me. I didn't get out til I was 36!
i mean at the doors.
how many rejections " i'm not interested" , "go away" , " no's" in other words all rejections do you think the average jw gets?
theres only so much of that a person can take isn't there?.
99.99%. If you consider the rate of "growth" amongst the dubs you can see the rejection rate is off the chart.
"Theres only so much of that a person can take isn't there?"
Obviously not for me. I didn't get out til I was 36!
truths to live by.
1. i think part of a best friend's job should be to immediately clear your computer history if you die.
2. nothing is worse that that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong.
great list my fave is #29
maybe it's a "common people separated by a common language" thing but i really don't get this.. .
many times i see somebody posting about something that irks them and they say "i could care less.
" but they use it in such a way as to infer they're not really bothered by it all.. .
I'm American and I say "I couldn't care less". That is the correct way. And I correct people all the time on this in conversation.
ok my other thread was not totally what i was after.
after thinking it through i was wondering if any of you have ever heard of someone being hurt by a householder in field service.. .
like i mentioned in my latest thread about the sister who was murdered and then her death was blamed on her.. i know in the hall i grew up in there were many sex offenders living in the area.
You know LifeITS, I've never really thought about this beyond the occasional shooting or dog threats we get at the doors. But when we were serving where the "need was greater" in rural / abandoned territories there was plenty of scare factor. But it was just the sacrifice we were willing to make b/c of Jehovah's namesake
There were a couple of times when we'd go on bible studies I'd get the sense that the man of the house was less than a gentleman. Beyond the usual, I have never heard of anyone getting hurt/killed.......it is very strange now that I think about it.
what is munchausen by proxy syndrome?.
one of the most harmful forms of child abuse, munchausen by proxy syndrome was named after baron von munchausen, an eighteenth-century german dignitary known for telling outlandish stories.
a parent will induce illness or injury in their own child and then take the victim in to the hospital to be seen as the heroic savior.. typically, the perpetrator feels satisfied when he or she has the attention and sympathy of doctors, nurses, and others who come into contact with him or her and the child.. because the parent or caregiver appears to be so caring and attentive, often no one suspects any wrongdoing.. .
"But in his great love and kindness he made away out for us."
If his love and kindness is so great why cause and allow so much suffering for us in the first place?
"Of course without God we can live this short existence and die, nothing to stop us choosing that."
It seems that's the option with god as well - either way it's not a choice
during the great depression in the 1930's people lost their jobs, banks closed and long lines formed in the streets called "bread lines".. you had to stand in line all day to get a free loaf of bread to feed your family!.
in a cabin in the appalachian mountains there was a family of four.
two children (a boy and a girl), a mom and a dad who had lost his job.
"I think that applies to the stagnation inside the Kingdom Halls. They are just "hanging on" until they lose their strength and fall away........"
That is the exact mentality of the witnesses. "....but the one that endures until the end will be saved."
The witnesses are often heard saying the like, " it is hard to walk on this narrow road, but if we just hold on we can all make it into the new system."
i read about it all the time here, i'm staying inside for my jw friends and family, i'll keep my mouth shut, i keep dropping hints trying to convince them they are wrong about the wt.
their are two sides to manipulation-ie, the manipulator and the victim/enabler.
one can not viably exist without the other.
Enjoyed your post undercover.
what can i do to help her in the new faze of df to help her see the truth of the "ttruth".
It is not that the WTS, "the truth," has failed them but they have failed "the truth."
Excellent way to explain that Blondie
I had a friend who was disfellowshipped. When I heard I reached out to them in an effort to rekindle our friendship. She was excited to remain friends but must have realized that if I was willing to continue our friendship I must not be doing "well in the truth"........... haven't heard from her again.
So I want to say proceed with caution while maintaining integrity about what you know to be true. If a DF'd person hasn't cut the cord they can turn on you in a minute.
Minimus - I do think that early childhood abuse can set one up for future abuse situations. Our first relationships teach us what's normal and acceptable. It can take a lifetime to unlearn that dysfunction. Some people never do.
Here's to surviving
i read about it all the time here, i'm staying inside for my jw friends and family, i'll keep my mouth shut, i keep dropping hints trying to convince them they are wrong about the wt.
their are two sides to manipulation-ie, the manipulator and the victim/enabler.
one can not viably exist without the other.
Used to be, not anymore.
That's a sobering experience by the way, hope it helps someone. Actually I have a couple of people I'm gonna tactully share it with.